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		<title>By: vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.iconophilia.net/architecture-and-eco-scepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your comment &#039;It is from everywhere, but creates a non-place&#039; is particularly poignant. Hence the success of NGA&#039;s sculpture garden. Accommodation would logically lend itself to food gardens fed by water tanks, and park lands to the re-creation of natural Australian &#039;habitats&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your comment &#8216;It is from everywhere, but creates a non-place&#8217; is particularly poignant. Hence the success of NGA&#8217;s sculpture garden. Accommodation would logically lend itself to food gardens fed by water tanks, and park lands to the re-creation of natural Australian &#8216;habitats&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://www.iconophilia.net/architecture-and-eco-scepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(from Neil Hobbs) Over many years I have been continually intrigued at public perceptions of favoured landscapes.  Ask the question on Canberra, and inevitably it is the Sculpture Garden at the National Gallery of Australia.  I have heard this from politicians, architects and the general public.  This much-contested landscape has essentially grown itself in the intervening years following the insightful design by the landscape architects and a happy few years of close collaboration with a committed parks manager.  Over that time it has continued to impress locals and visitors, and for whatever reasons holds a special place as a distinctly Australian landscape in what had become a distinctly Australian (ie bush) Capital.  It would seem that the use of native planting has had an influence on this perception, and also the apparently random design of the pathways and asymmetrical disposition of the spaces.  Environmentally it works, with minimal impervious materials promoting ground water infiltration, and very limited irrigation.  I have to excuse the fog sculpture, which does produce a specific microclimate, if only for a couple of hours a day.

Contrast this with two recent and ongoing developments in Canberra – The Brindabella Office Park (surrounding the airport) and Childers Street/City West. 

The commercial development at the airport purports to be 5 -6 green star development, all well and good, (though the landscape is irrigated with bore water) but on a ‘sense of place’ scale it does not rate.  It is the same as any other business park developed anywhere internationally over the last two decades.  The only pointer to anything remotely Australian is a temporary road sign to ‘Queanbeyan’ – (Queanbeyan of course has a sense of place – while there are many variations on ‘Kingston’ around the world, there is indisputably only one Queanbeyan!).  The landscape consists of deciduous trees, irrigated grassing and blocks of generally exotic shrubs and ground cover.  It is from everywhere, but creates a non-place.

Childers Street/City West has been developed and promoted as an ‘engaging connection of the Australian National University with the western edge of Civic’ (A kind of ‘Newtown meets Gown’ or something like that).  It is still a construction site, but is rapidly filling with student accommodation, commercial space and multi level carparks.  Trouble is, someone forgot to plant trees.  There is a lot of colour and movement in the buildings, and again, they have been designed to meet Commonwealth mandated green star ratings for commercial office space, and wonderful water sensitive reed beds and stormwater management systems, but half the landscape is missing.  The scale and proportion of the street corridor demands more than buildings and artworks.  On a ‘sense of place’ scale, Childers Street would edge out Brindabella Office Park, but it is a marginal call.
 
It gets worse - Brindabella Office Park just won an AIA award for Urban Design in June....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(from Neil Hobbs) Over many years I have been continually intrigued at public perceptions of favoured landscapes.  Ask the question on Canberra, and inevitably it is the Sculpture Garden at the National Gallery of Australia.  I have heard this from politicians, architects and the general public.  This much-contested landscape has essentially grown itself in the intervening years following the insightful design by the landscape architects and a happy few years of close collaboration with a committed parks manager.  Over that time it has continued to impress locals and visitors, and for whatever reasons holds a special place as a distinctly Australian landscape in what had become a distinctly Australian (ie bush) Capital.  It would seem that the use of native planting has had an influence on this perception, and also the apparently random design of the pathways and asymmetrical disposition of the spaces.  Environmentally it works, with minimal impervious materials promoting ground water infiltration, and very limited irrigation.  I have to excuse the fog sculpture, which does produce a specific microclimate, if only for a couple of hours a day.</p>
<p>Contrast this with two recent and ongoing developments in Canberra – The Brindabella Office Park (surrounding the airport) and Childers Street/City West. </p>
<p>The commercial development at the airport purports to be 5 -6 green star development, all well and good, (though the landscape is irrigated with bore water) but on a ‘sense of place’ scale it does not rate.  It is the same as any other business park developed anywhere internationally over the last two decades.  The only pointer to anything remotely Australian is a temporary road sign to ‘Queanbeyan’ – (Queanbeyan of course has a sense of place – while there are many variations on ‘Kingston’ around the world, there is indisputably only one Queanbeyan!).  The landscape consists of deciduous trees, irrigated grassing and blocks of generally exotic shrubs and ground cover.  It is from everywhere, but creates a non-place.</p>
<p>Childers Street/City West has been developed and promoted as an ‘engaging connection of the Australian National University with the western edge of Civic’ (A kind of ‘Newtown meets Gown’ or something like that).  It is still a construction site, but is rapidly filling with student accommodation, commercial space and multi level carparks.  Trouble is, someone forgot to plant trees.  There is a lot of colour and movement in the buildings, and again, they have been designed to meet Commonwealth mandated green star ratings for commercial office space, and wonderful water sensitive reed beds and stormwater management systems, but half the landscape is missing.  The scale and proportion of the street corridor demands more than buildings and artworks.  On a ‘sense of place’ scale, Childers Street would edge out Brindabella Office Park, but it is a marginal call.</p>
<p>It gets worse &#8211; Brindabella Office Park just won an AIA award for Urban Design in June&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.iconophilia.net/architecture-and-eco-scepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above are quite restrained compared with the pretentious &#039;hey look at me&#039; office buildings at Canberra airport. We are drowning in green wash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above are quite restrained compared with the pretentious &#8216;hey look at me&#8217; office buildings at Canberra airport. We are drowning in green wash.</p>
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		<title>By: vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.iconophilia.net/architecture-and-eco-scepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there really is no hope for eco-anything is there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there really is no hope for eco-anything is there!</p>
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		<title>By: Uselesslines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uselesslines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm very curious indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm very curious indeed.</p>
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